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The Latest EDMUNDS DATA SHOCKS The Auto Industry | Episode 1097

The Latest EDMUNDS DATA SHOCKS The Auto Industry | Episode 1097

CarEdge Live Jun 25, 2026 32 min
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New-car affordability gets dissected with fresh Edmunds data, starting with how vehicles are increasingly concentrated in higher MSRP price buckets—leaving tiny shares in the $15,000–$20,000 range. The hosts connect that “sticker shock” to trimflation, decontented base models, and even the shift from large SUVs to minivans. They also challenge simple affordability narratives by arguing payment shock is driven by higher auto loan rates, then broaden the lens to insurance and maintenance. CarEdge plugs tools and AI agents for shopping.

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Honda Crv

"Cox Automotive took a Honda CR-V, the base option back in 2026, excuse me, in 2016, the CR-V LX. And so you've got here a $23,745 base MSRP."

The Honda CR-V is a popular SUV. The hosts are using it to show that a car that was much cheaper years ago can cost far more today, partly because the standard features and tech have changed.

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base MSRP

"And so you've got here a $23,745 base MSRP. And here are the things that vehicle in 2016 didn't include."

MSRP is the starting price on the car’s official sticker from the manufacturer. “Base MSRP” means the price for the simplest version of the car, before extra costs like taxes or dealer add-ons.

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2.4 liter naturally aspirated engine

"And here are the things that vehicle in 2016 didn't include. 2.4 liter naturally aspirated engine, five inch display."

Naturally aspirated means the engine doesn’t use a turbo or supercharger to force air in. “2.4 liter” is the engine size, which affects how much air and fuel it can move.

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automatic emergency braking

"no Honda sensing suite, no automatic emergency braking, no lane keep, no wireless charging,"

Automatic emergency braking is a safety feature that can brake for you if it thinks you’re about to hit something. It’s meant to reduce crash severity or help avoid the collision.

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lane keep

"no automatic emergency braking, no lane keep, no wireless charging, no push button start,"

Lane keep helps prevent you from drifting out of your lane. It uses sensors to detect lane lines and can nudge the steering to keep you on track.

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wireless charging

"no lane keep, no wireless charging, no push button start, no automatic climate control."

Wireless charging lets you charge your phone without plugging in a cable, usually by setting it on a pad in the car. It’s a convenience feature that many newer cars include.

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push button start

"no wireless charging, no push button start, no automatic climate control. Now, the price has gone up $11,000 on this vehicle."

Push button start means you start the car by pressing a button instead of turning a key. It usually works when your key fob is inside the car.

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average transaction price

"We've got now a $38,778 as compared to $27,761 average transaction price for the 2026. The base model was $23,745 in 2016."

Average transaction price is what people are paying in real-world deals. It’s different from the sticker price because it reflects discounts, incentives, and how dealers actually sell cars.

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Honda Sensing Suite

"What if it didn't have, I don't know, a wireless charging pad, a Honda Sensing Suite for all trims? What if it didn't have lane keeping and adaptive cruise control?"

Honda Sensing Suite is Honda’s set of safety/driver-assist features. In this context, the speaker is saying the base car might cost more because these features are being added to every trim.

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adaptive cruise control

"What if it didn't have lane keeping and adaptive cruise control? What if it didn't have 18 inch alloy wheels and automatic climate control?"

Adaptive cruise control is like regular cruise control, but it can slow down and speed up to keep a safe distance from the car in front. It’s one of the tech features that can make a “base” car more expensive.

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18 inch alloy wheels

"What if it didn't have lane keeping and adaptive cruise control? What if it didn't have 18 inch alloy wheels and automatic climate control?"

These are car wheels that are 18 inches across, made from metal alloy. Bigger wheels often come with different tires and can be part of the reason a car’s “base” price isn’t as low as it used to be.

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automatic climate control

"What if it didn't have 18 inch alloy wheels and automatic climate control? I mean, what, what could the price of that vehicle be if it was really a base"

Automatic climate control is the system that keeps the cabin at a set temperature for you. Instead of you constantly adjusting knobs, it manages the heating/cooling automatically.

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new vehicles nearly gone

"But dad, this is the whole story here, which is these manufacturers have increased, excuse me, the content levels and the price points and the data back from Edmunds continues to corroborate this $25,000 new vehicles nearly gone."

They’re saying the cheapest new cars are getting harder to find. As a result, people who want a low price may end up paying more because the “basic” versions aren’t widely available.

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base models

"Well, part of the problem is, is we lost base models... And so they increased the content of their next step up and made it your base model..."

A “base model” is the cheapest version of a car. It usually has fewer features, but it costs less—so taking them away can make it harder to afford a new car.

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affordability

"It is we can't, as an industry, constantly for the last three years, talk about affordability, OK, and do nothing about it."

“Affordability” here means whether regular people can afford to buy a new car. The host is saying the industry talks about it, but doesn’t do enough to make cars cheaper to start with.

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decontent their vehicles

"And there are ways if the manufacturers, the automakers were willing, there are ways for them to decontent their vehicles and bring prices down."

“Decontent” means making a car simpler by removing some features. The goal is usually to lower the price so more people can afford it.

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decontented vehicles

"So they came out with Oxford editions, which were decontented vehicles [696.7s] that were in the low 20s."

“Decontented” just means the car was made with fewer features to lower the price. It’s like a stripped-down version so more people can afford it.

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bad bets they made on the EVs

"And so maybe they don't find themselves at least they don't think [735.2s] they can find themselves in a position to decontent cars, [739.2s] produce lower profit margin cars for them, but produce more affordable cars"

The host is saying some car companies invested heavily in EVs too early. If EV sales or pricing didn’t work out the way they expected, it can hurt their finances.

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profit margin

"produce lower profit margin cars for them, but produce more affordable cars [747.1s] so that the new car market could actually grow because there could be"

Profit margin is how much money a company keeps from each sale after paying costs. A lower profit margin means they make less profit per car, even if they sell more cars.

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entry point

"with the decidedly mid-range EX now positioned as the CRV's entry point. This takes the base price up to $32,355"

“Entry point” means the cheapest version you can realistically buy. If the entry point moves to a higher trim, the starting price goes up.

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freight charge

"This takes the base price up to $32,355, including a nearly $1,250 freight charge that works out to $1,800 more year over year."

A freight charge is the fee for shipping the car from where it’s built to the dealer. It’s often added on top of the sticker price.

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trimflation

"Honda went through this process during the pandemic and many other automakers did too of trimflation, getting rid of major level options and we've seen it now."

Trimflation means car makers quietly make the cheapest version harder to find. They drop lower trims and leave higher, pricier versions as the new “starting point.”

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haves and the have not

"You come on this show all the time and you talk about how there's the haves and the have not. So here's Edmunds saying the same thing."

The host is using “haves and have not” to describe a gap in who can afford today’s prices. The cheaper end of the market shrinks while pricier vehicles take over more of the sales mix.

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affordable large SUV no longer exists

"I mean, they say right here, the affordable large SUV no longer exists. Dad, you want a large SUV?"

They’re saying that big family SUVs (with three rows) have gotten so expensive that the “budget” version basically disappeared. So people who want that space have to look at other vehicle types or pay more.

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three rows

"Dad, you want a large SUV? We're talking three rows. You're going to have to spend more than 60,000."

“Three rows” means the vehicle has seats in three sections, so it can carry more people—usually up to seven or eight depending on the model. It’s the main reason these SUVs are popular for families.

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minivans are making a comeback

"which is one of the reasons why many vans are making a comeback because they're $10,000 to $20,000 less than those SUVs."

They’re saying minivans are selling better again after a period where they were losing popularity. One reason is that they cost less than big three-row SUVs with similar features.

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stow away

"They're more versatile than those SUVs because in many cases, seats either stow away or can be removed completely."

They mean the seats can fold up and disappear into the vehicle so you get more room for luggage or gear. That flexibility is one reason minivans can be more practical than some SUVs.

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market adjustment

"So we see a slight market adjustment to where we see increases in minivan sales. That was a market that had been declining."

They mean the market is changing—people are buying different types of vehicles because prices moved. When SUVs cost more, shoppers often switch to something cheaper that still fits their needs.

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chips

"We realize that, yes, there was a limited number of chips that were"

They’re talking about computer chips inside cars. If there aren’t enough chips, carmakers can’t finish building cars, which can reduce supply and push prices up.

Car

Honda Odyssey

"Okay. And let's see what those price points are or Honda Odyssey's. No, let's do the Carnival."

The Honda Odyssey is a family minivan. It’s the kind of vehicle people buy when they need lots of room for passengers, and here it’s brought up while comparing van prices to SUV prices.

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Kia Carnival

"No, let's do the Carnival. That's a great idea. Yeah."

The Kia Carnival is a minivan from Kia. In this discussion, it’s mentioned to help explain how minivan prices can be lower than SUVs, which is part of why more people are choosing them.

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original MSRP

"We've got anything ranging from original MSRP of $51,595 to $40,980, $41,000. Definitely seeing lower price points so far, but also some of them get quite"

MSRP is the price listed on the car when it’s new—basically the starting point the manufacturer recommends. They’re using it here to compare how expensive different vans are at the start.

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reading between the tea leaves

"And, and it would seem to me that if manufacturers are seeing an increase in sales in those vehicles, that they, I would hope are equally as bright as I am when it comes to reading between the tea leaves. And the reason for that growth is because those are more affordable than the more expensive SUVs."

“Reading between the tea leaves” here means interpreting sales and pricing trends to infer what automakers are thinking or planning. The hosts connect van popularity to affordability versus SUVs, suggesting that manufacturers should notice the same signals and respond.

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monthly payment math

"They say monthly payment math income adjusted affordability has hardly moved. [1470.4s] The payment shock is real, but it's not the car."

“Monthly payment math” is how the car price and the loan details turn into what you pay each month. Higher interest rates usually make that monthly number bigger.

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payment shock

"The payment shock is real, but it's not the car. [1473.3s] So let's go through this before you react."

“Payment shock” means your monthly car bill can jump a lot, often because the loan interest rate changes. Even if the car price didn’t rise much, the payment can still feel much higher.

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basis point

"And they're saying that the 320 basis point increase in auto loan rates from 6.35% to 9.53% [1508.4s] is the real culprit for why we have an affordability crisis, rates, not price."

A basis point is a tiny way to measure interest-rate changes. 100 basis points equals 1 full percentage point, so 320 basis points is a 3.2% increase.

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auto loan rates

"And they're saying that the 320 basis point increase in auto loan rates from 6.35% to 9.53% [1508.4s] is the real culprit for why we have an affordability crisis, rates, not price."

Auto loan rates are the interest rate you get when you finance a car. If the rate goes up, your monthly payment usually goes up too, even if the car price stays similar.

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loan term length

"payments, dad, which obviously we're not factoring in loan term length into that right now, [1527.3s] but whatever, we'll set that aside for a second."

Loan term length is how many months you have to pay off the car loan. A longer loan can make the monthly payment smaller, but you usually pay more interest overall.

Car

Toyota RAV4

"...ler on and he's got a four month waitlist to sell RAV4s. So it's like, there's enough people out there an..."

The Toyota RAV4 is a small SUV made for everyday driving, with extra space compared to a sedan. The podcast mentions it because many people want it, so there can be a long wait to buy one. That usually means the supply isn’t keeping up with demand.

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