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Toyota Seriously HAS NO MORE CARS | How Did This Happen? | Episode 1059

Toyota Seriously HAS NO MORE CARS | How Did This Happen? | Episode 1059

CarEdge Live Apr 27, 2026 30 min
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About this episode

Toyota dealer Tyler Baker from Ackerman Toyota joins Ray and Zach to explain why Toyota inventory is so tight, how customers effectively “order” cars without a true factory-order system, and why the brand’s reliability keeps demand high. The conversation digs into Tacoma and RAV4 supply, hybrid shortages, used-car turnover, and how Ackerman avoids add-ons and high fees. They also debate dealership transparency, faster sales processes, and the long-term risks of short-term pricing tactics in a supply-constrained market.

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Concept

Dealer Transparency Index

"And dad, today, as you know, we have spent a lot of time working on the Dealer Transparency Index. We actually have a real life... Toyota dealer joining the show today."

A “Dealer Transparency Index” is a way to judge how honest and clear a car dealership is. It helps you spot dealers that explain the full price and terms upfront, instead of hiding extra costs.

Company

Acriman Toyota

"let me pull him in here, Tyler Baker... from Acriman Toyota... I've been with Acriman Toyota for 18 years now."

Acriman Toyota is a specific Toyota dealership. The guest is a salesperson there, and the hosts are using his dealership to talk about how Toyota sales work.

Concept

days supply of inventory

"“Every single month puts out the day's supply of inventory for the car market… And me and my dad have been talking about this… Toyota has a 36 days supply of inventory. Can you talk to us about what does day's supply mean?”"

It’s a way to measure how many days of car stock a dealership market has left. If the number is low, it usually means cars are selling fast and dealers don’t have much sitting around.

Company

Cox Automotive

"“But here's where I want to start, Tyler, which is Cox Automotive. Every single month puts out the day's supply of inventory…”"

Cox Automotive is a company that collects and publishes data about the car market. Here, they’re the ones providing the inventory numbers the hosts are discussing.

Concept

inventory by brand

"“we're going to scroll all the way down here to the chart that shows day's supply of inventory by brand. Toyota has a 36 days supply of inventory.”"

This is a comparison of how many cars different brands have available. If one brand has less inventory, it often means shoppers are buying them faster than they’re arriving.

Concept

conquest customers

"We've had a lot of conquest customers since COVID, and we're selling more cars before they're built than we are actually cars here on the lot."

Conquest customers are people who normally buy another brand, but decide to switch and buy Toyota instead. Dealers often try to win them when they have cars available when other brands don’t.

Concept

allocated inventory

"We've had a lot of conquest customers since COVID, and we're selling more cars before they're built than we are actually cars here on the lot. How has Toyota managed to have such an understanding of what they need to produce for demand while not overproducing so that, if I hate to say this, you guys can hold gross profit more so than most dealers?"

Allocation inventory means dealers get a limited number of cars from the factory, and those cars are assigned ahead of time. That’s why you might be able to buy a car before it even arrives at the dealership.

Concept

overproducing

"How has Toyota managed to have such an understanding of what they need to produce for demand while not overproducing so that, if I hate to say this, you guys can hold gross profit more so than most dealers?"

Overproducing means making too many cars for what people are actually buying. If there are too many cars sitting around, prices usually drop and dealers make less money.

Concept

gross profit

"How has Toyota managed to have such an understanding of what they need to produce for demand while not overproducing so that, if I hate to say this, you guys can hold gross profit more so than most dealers?"

Gross profit is basically how much money a dealer makes on the sale of a car before their other costs. If cars are scarce and priced well, dealers can sometimes keep more of that profit.

Concept

factory order a vehicle

"Yeah. I mean, Tyler, talk to us a little bit about what it actually means to buy a Toyota in today's market because last time I checked, you can't order a new Toyota. You're one of the manufacturers where you can't factory order a vehicle."

Normally you might think you can pick exactly what you want and the factory builds it. In this market, that’s often not how it works—you usually buy what’s already coming, and you can’t always customize it.

Concept

factory options

"If it's a Japan-built car, it's a little more complicated because you can't change factory options and things of that nature."

Factory options are the features and packages the car is built with from the factory. If you can’t order directly, you often have to pick from cars that already have those features.

Concept

Japan-built car

"If it's a Japan-built car, it's a little more complicated because you can't change factory options and things of that nature. But if it's a domestic or a Canadian-built car,"

They’re saying where the car is built can affect how customizable it is. Some cars built in Japan may have fewer option changes available compared with cars built locally.

Concept

allocated cars

"We can also trade for cars that are allocated. So really, from the customer's side, it is just ordering a car... when they get cars allocated, they'll offer those to you when your name is up."

Sometimes the factory can’t make enough cars for everyone, so it “allocates” them to dealerships. The dealer then offers those limited cars to customers when they come in.

Concept

ordering a car vs going directly to Toyota

"And we can get that exact car. That's what separated us... it is just ordering a car... your order is not like going directly to Toyota. But yeah, from their perspective, it's the same thing."

The speaker contrasts dealer-facilitated ordering with ordering directly from the automaker. In practice, many “orders” still depend on factory production slots, allocations, and dealer processing rather than a guaranteed build date.

Car

Toyota Camry

"...Toyota built more Tacomas than they did RAV4s and Camrys combined, which is insane, considering the RAV4s are best-selling car in America and the Camrys best-selling sedan in America."

They’re comparing how many Toyota Camrys were being built versus other models. If the factory makes fewer of a popular car, dealers may have less inventory and longer waits.

Term

tariffs

"But I don't know if they had to do with tariffs and things of that nature, and if Toyota was trying to get ahead of things."

Tariffs are extra taxes on imports. If key car parts come from other countries, tariffs can make them more expensive and harder to get on time.

Car

Toyota Tundra

"We have a lot of tundras, but we're also in the city. So we don't do as well with the big trucks."

They’re saying they get some Toyota Tundras, but their local area doesn’t buy big trucks as much. So inventory can build up depending on what people in that city want.

Concept

redesign causing a backlog

"But RAV4s especially, because they just redesigned the RAV4 for the first time in six years, those are a pretty big backlog."

A major redesign can create a temporary supply backlog because production lines and parts sourcing switch to the new model. Even if demand stays high, inventory can lag until the new configuration ramps up.

Car

Toyota Grand Highlander

"And Highlander hybrids, Grand Highlander hybrids, most of the hybrids really are not sitting on the lot."

This is Toyota’s hybrid version of the Highlander SUV. Hybrid models can sell quickly, so dealers may not have many cars sitting on the lot at any given time.

Concept

counseling a customer as to what's available

"It's more counseling a customer as to what's available, when it might be available, what can you live without, or what do you absolutely have to have."

This describes a sales approach that focuses on managing expectations when inventory is constrained—explaining what’s actually available, when it might arrive, and what trade-offs the buyer can make. In a shortage, the “sales process” shifts from selling a specific car on the lot to guiding the customer through availability and timing.

Concept

inventory stats

"And if I may, Tyler, just want to take a second, because I want to dig into more the inventory stats, but I also want to demonstrate something really quick here."

“Inventory stats” are the dealer-level numbers that show how many vehicles are available, how quickly they sell, and how often certain models are in stock. In a low-inventory environment, these stats strongly influence how dealers set expectations and manage customer demand.

Company

Ackerman Toyota

"29 verified OTDs from Ackerman Toyota. Look at this pops."

Ackerman Toyota is the dealership being referenced as the source of the “verified OTDs.” The segment uses it as an example of transparent pricing and low extra fees compared with other Toyota dealers.

Term

OTD

"29 verified OTDs from Ackerman Toyota. Look at this pops."

OTD means the total price you’ll actually pay to drive the car home. It includes the extra charges beyond the advertised price.

Term

dock fee

"Look at this pops. $299 dock fee is $230 below the Missouri average of 529."

A dock fee is an extra charge some dealers add on top of the car price. In this segment, they’re saying their dock fee is lower than what’s typical in the area.

Term

dealer add-on

"At Ackerman, we have never detected a dealer add-on. The price you see online is the price you're going to get."

Dealer add-ons are extra add-on items or fees the dealer tries to include in the deal. The point here is that this dealer says they don’t tack on surprise add-ons.

Term

negotiate

"And Tyler and his team, they're willing to negotiate. You can literally come down here and see there are multiple negotiations where you can save some money,"

“Negotiate” refers to bargaining over the final purchase price and deal terms rather than accepting the first quote. The hosts highlight that the dealership is willing to negotiate, which can reduce the out-the-door cost even when advertised pricing is already competitive.

Term

limited

"Are there Toyota dealers out there who are taking advantage of the fact that there's limited"

The word “limited” is pointing to low inventory. When there aren’t many cars to choose from, some dealers may try to make extra money with extra charges or pressure.

Term

add-ons

"inventory right now, adding markups, add-ons, things like that? Is that happening in today's car market still? Yes. And this dealer will remain nameless, but there was a dealer that came in and bought."

Add-ons are extra stuff the dealer tries to sell along with the car. They can make the final price jump, even if you didn’t plan on buying them.

Term

markups

"inventory right now, adding markups, add-ons, things like that? Is that happening in today's car market still?"

A markup is extra money a dealer adds to the car’s price. When demand is high, dealers can charge more than the “normal” price.

Term

administrative fee

"But the administrative fee is a really good thing to point out. Missouri changed their law a few years ago and allowed dealerships to raise their administrative fee to $600."

An administrative fee is a dealer charge for handling the sale paperwork. It can be increased by state rules, so it can change from year to year.

Concept

supply and demand

"I think it's a great example here that when the car market gets tight, I mean, Dad, you and I talk about it like it's a high school economics class pretty much every week. It's supply and demand."

If there are fewer cars available and lots of people want them, prices tend to go up. That’s the basic idea behind supply and demand.

Concept

pricing power

"But when supply goes down and demands high, there's pricing power, but there's also a short game and a long game."

Pricing power means sellers can charge more because customers still have to buy. When cars are hard to find, dealers often have more leverage on price.

Concept

short game and long game

"But there's also a short game and a long game. The short game is I can jack up my dock fee, I can jack up the add-ons, I can make more money today. But what's going to happen when that customer gets educated?"

The short game is making extra money right now. The long game is keeping customers happy so they come back for their next car.

Term

repeat customers

"what would you say is the percentage of repeat customers that Ackerman gets? ... it's over 60% what our repeat customers are as far as new car sales are concerned"

Repeat customers are people who buy from the same dealer more than once. If the dealer treats them well (or not), it can change whether they come back.

Concept

long-term vs short-term sales strategy

"...you can definitely try to maximize every single person that walks on the door... But that's a completely short-sighted way of doing things... ultimately, if they're happy with their experience, that's way more important than actually maximizing every dollar you're going to make from that person in that instance."

They’re talking about two ways a dealership can think. One is to make the most money from every customer right now. The other is to keep customers happy so they come back later and recommend the dealership.

Concept

day supply of vehicles (heat map)

"We have a little bit of like a heat map here that shows the day supply of vehicles... you can actually see quite a bit of red on this screen..."

They’re looking at a chart that estimates how long the current cars on lots will last. If the number is high, it usually means cars are selling more slowly than expected.

Car

Toyota Tacomas

"For example, in North Carolina where there's actually a significantly high day supply of Toyota Tacomas in the Winston-Salem area, for example, there's one dealer that has 31 Toyota Tacomas on the lot right now, some of them sitting for 268 days."

A Toyota Tacoma is a popular midsize truck. In this segment, they’re talking about how many Tacomas dealers have sitting around for a long time, which usually means buyers aren’t snapping them up as fast as expected.

Concept

days on the lot

"there's one dealer that has 31 Toyota Tacomas on the lot right now, some of them sitting for 268 days. That's great."

“Days on the lot” measures how long a specific vehicle has been sitting unsold at a dealership. Extended days on lot often correlate with discounts, incentives, or weaker demand in that market.

Term

hybrid powertrains

"we've got some markets where there's some RAV4 supply, but I'm doubtful that's going to be the supply of those hybrid powertrains, for example."

A hybrid powertrain is the system that lets a car use both a gas engine and an electric motor. They’re saying that hybrid versions might be harder to find even when some other versions are available.

Concept

brand risk

"Is this not a little bit of the risk where you were just describing short-term thinking versus long-term thinking that Toyota is running into right now?"

“Brand risk” here means the possibility that customers lose trust or switch brands when a manufacturer can’t supply enough vehicles to meet demand. In practice, persistent shortages can lead to frustration, lost sales, and reputational damage.

Concept

franchises

"I guess it is. But I don't know how they specifically are going to address those with the franchises that are taking advantage of people."

In dealership terms, “franchises” refers to the authorized dealer network that sells a manufacturer’s vehicles in a territory. The hosts are implying that franchise dealers may be taking advantage of shortages, affecting how the brand manages customer experience.

Concept

used car manager

"And having just a general manager and a used car manager, I take from that that you as salespeople are given a little more leeway to just go ahead and make deals without having to run to a manager to get it approved through."

A used car manager oversees the pre-owned inventory strategy, pricing, and sales process for a dealership’s used vehicles. In this segment, they’re used to frame how deal approvals and internal authority can differ between roles.

Concept

general manager

"I want to ask you a follow-up question to what we were just discussing before. And having just a general manager and a used car manager, I take from that that you as salespeople are given a little more leeway to just go ahead and make deals without having to run to a manager to get it approved through."

A general manager (GM) at a dealership is typically responsible for overall store performance, including sales strategy and approvals. The discussion suggests salespeople may need GM approval for certain deal terms, depending on the store’s policies.

Concept

customer satisfaction scores

"Yes, yes, we excel in all of those areas. I think that's changed over the last probably 10 years too, as far as people really liking that."

“Customer satisfaction scores” are metrics used to quantify how happy customers are with the buying process and dealership experience. The speaker implies their process reduces friction and improves these scores over time.

Concept

back and forth (negotiation)

"there are still people around that want the back and forth. They live for the back and forth... I mean, I don't want it to take two hours, two and a half hours to buy a car."

They’re talking about the traditional negotiation style where you keep negotiating for a long time. The point is that it wastes everyone’s time and can make the deal feel worse afterward.

Brand

Admiral Nissan

"And I remember one day he's in my office at Admiral Nissan in Pleasantville, New Jersey. And Harry's going off on me and the owner walked down the steps..."

Admiral Nissan is the name of a car dealership mentioned in the story. It’s used to illustrate how long negotiations used to be.

Term

rail delays

"Now, there are things that happen. Okay. There's rail delays. There's rail strikes. There's campaigns that come on cars."

Sometimes cars are shipped by train, and the trains can be delayed. That can make your delivery later even if the car was already built.

Term

rail strikes

"There's rail delays. There's rail strikes. There's campaigns that come on cars."

A rail strike means train workers stop working. If cars are being shipped by train, that can delay deliveries.

Concept

campaigns on a car

"For people that don't know, campaigns on a car is like a recall on a car, right? So if there's a recall on a car and that car is in transit, they stop that car and it's one of the rail yards. They fix that recall before you ever get the car."

A “campaign” is Toyota (or another maker) telling dealers to fix a known issue on certain cars. If the car is still on the way, they may hold it to do the fix before you get it.

Term

recall

"So if there's a recall on a car and that car is in transit, they stop that car and it's one of the rail yards. They fix that recall before you ever get the car."

A recall is when the manufacturer says some cars need a fix. If your car is still shipping, it might get held until the fix is done.

Term

rail yard

"they stop that car and it's one of the rail yards. They fix that recall before you ever get the car. And if there's no fix for the recall, it sits in that rail yard."

A rail yard is a place where trains and rail cars are parked and organized. Cars can sit there temporarily, especially if they need a required fix before delivery.

Topic

test drive availability in today's market

"Are there actually vehicles on the ground for customers to test drive? If I want to test drive when you rap for, how do I do that in today's market? And this is like a great picture Toyota"

They’re asking whether cars are actually sitting at dealerships so customers can drive them. It’s about what the current market makes it like to get a test drive.

Concept

redesign cycle

"the RAV4 is it's a redesign... But when it's a redesign like the RAV4, that is a tough spot."

When a car gets redesigned, it often takes time for dealers to get enough new cars in stock. That can make it harder to test drive the newest version right away.

Concept

order backlog

"And we still have a three month backlog of orders. So I guess to answer your question..."

An order backlog means lots of people have placed orders, but the cars aren’t arriving quickly enough. So you may have to wait months before you can drive or receive the new one.

Car

Toyota Crown

"Crown Signia. Does that sell at all?... It's the Avalon SUV now... the Crown Signia is the Avalon SUV... They're great cars."

The Toyota Crown Signia is a Toyota crossover that isn’t as common as the brand’s biggest sellers. Because fewer are made or sold, it can be harder to find one to test drive.

Car

Toyota Venza

"I've driven nothing but Venza's for demos for the last four or five years... I miled out of the very last Venza we ever got."

The Toyota Venza is a Toyota crossover. In the episode, the host says they drove Venzas as demo cars for years and then moved into a Crown Signia.

Car

Corolla

"They're not like a Corolla or a Camry or a RAV4."

The Toyota Corolla is a very common Toyota. Because it sells in large numbers, dealers usually have more of them available than rarer models.

Concept

used car inventory shortage

"used car prices are through the roof and hard to keep inventory."

A used car inventory shortage happens when there aren’t enough trade-ins or used vehicles available on dealer lots. The hosts say used car prices are very high and inventory is hard to keep, which can make shopping harder and reduce negotiating power.

Concept

used car prices are higher

"We turn our used inventory quickly and used car prices are higher... because used cars are more expensive."

They’re saying used cars cost more than they used to, and that affects the whole market. If used cars are pricey, people may delay buying or look harder for new ones, which can make new-car shortages worse.

Concept

backlogs on orders

"And that's been the biggest driver of these new cars having backlogs on orders, having short day supply..."

A backlog means people have placed orders, but the cars aren’t arriving fast enough. So customers wait longer, and it feels like there are fewer cars available.

Concept

short day supply

"...having backlogs on orders, having short day supply is because the used car market is inflated..."

It means the dealership doesn’t have enough cars to last very long at the current pace of sales. When that happens, cars sell faster and prices can go up.

Brand

Stellantis

"...not all brands are created equal... Tyler Stellantis, for example, over the last decade have increased their prices by almost 60%... where Toyotas' sales are up so much."

They’re using Stellantis as an example of a company that raised prices a lot and is losing sales. The point is that not all brands react the same way when the market gets expensive.

Concept

CPI

"And to be clear, Toyotas nowhere near that. And that's significantly higher than the CPI, than inflation rates."

CPI is a common way to measure how much prices in general are rising. They’re saying some brands raised prices more than the overall inflation rate.

Concept

inventory turns

"70 cars on a lot and 650 in the month. That is insane turns. No wonder they use car managers in there for 40 years."

Inventory turns is a way to measure how fast a dealership sells its cars. If they sell a lot of cars quickly, that’s “high turns,” and it usually means buyers are competing for limited supply.

Concept

cell 65 out of the 70

"Not that quickly, but yeah, you'll love to hear it, to have the cell 65 out of the 70. I mean, you know, that just indicates to me that there's still just this huge shortage of used cars."

This sounds like a quick sales rate: selling most of the cars the dealer had (65 out of 70). They’re using it to show cars are selling fast because there aren’t many available.

Concept

tariff related

"...that must be tariff related in some way, or maybe it was last year that he was referring to..."

They’re wondering if tariffs—taxes on imported goods—are messing with how easily cars and parts can be made or shipped. That could lead to shortages and longer waits.

Concept

oversupply inventory

"...Tacomas and Tundras are the two areas, the trucks, where Toyota actually has an oversupply inventory everywhere else, dramatic under supply..."

Oversupply inventory means there are more cars available than people are buying right now. If a model has oversupply, it’s usually easier to find; if it’s under supply, people wait longer.

Concept

three month wait list

"...dramatic under supply, three month wait list for the newly redesigned RAV4's."

A three-month wait list means you can’t just walk in and get the car—people have to wait. That usually happens when lots of people want the same model but there aren’t enough available.

Concept

speed up the process

"...I don't want each sale to have to take two and a half to three hours because that cuts into what I have to do and how many cars I can sell. The whole concept is, if you speed up the process,"

They’re talking about making the buying process faster. If each sale takes too long, the dealer can’t sell as many cars in a day or week.

Concept

proposed rules that would gain, you can't actually advertise cars that aren't for sale

"coming off the FTC pushing all these proposed rules that would gain, you can't actually advertise cars that aren't for sale... their sales model is no longer, hey, land on a car, come test drive."

This refers to consumer-protection advertising guidance that limits marketing claims to what’s truly available for purchase. For car dealers, it can force changes to how they list incoming models, “in transit” inventory, and future model-year vehicles on websites and ads.

Brand

FTC

"coming off the FTC pushing all these proposed rules that would gain, you can't actually advertise cars that aren't for sale."

The FTC is a U.S. government agency that helps enforce fair advertising rules. The point in this segment is that dealers may not be allowed to advertise cars that customers can’t actually buy yet.

Car

Toyota RAV4

"Dad, if I'm a Toyota dealer trying to advertise and merchandise my 2026 RAV4s that don't exist because they won't exist for three months... there's five RAV4s here that are being advertised for sale and it just doesn't really make sense because we know they're not actually available."

The Toyota RAV4 is a popular Toyota SUV. The hosts are talking about the 2026 RAV4 and how dealers might advertise it even though it won’t be available for a few months.

Company

CarEdge.com

"Check out the website. A few things to call out here. Shop cars. You can shop for newer used cars... Under research, we have so much stuff. You want to know how cars depreciate."

CarEdge.com is a website they use to help people research cars. It can estimate things like how a car’s value changes over time and what it might cost to own and insure.

Concept

how cars depreciate

"Under research, we have so much stuff. You want to know how cars depreciate. You want to know what it's going to cost to own a vehicle."

Depreciation is how much a car’s value drops as it gets older. If you know that, you can better guess what you’ll pay overall and what you might get when you sell.

Concept

cost to insure it

"You want to know what it's going to cost to own a vehicle. You want to see what it's going to cost to insure it. Check that out under research."

Insurance cost is what you pay to have the car covered. Different cars can cost more or less to insure, so it’s smart to estimate it before buying.

Concept

cost to own a vehicle

"You want to know what it's going to cost to own a vehicle. You want to see what it's going to cost to insure it. Check that out under research."

“Cost to own” means what a car will cost you over time, not just what you pay at the dealership. It usually includes things like insurance and routine upkeep.

Term

dealer reviews

"Dealer reviews. Dad, we spent some time looking at dealer reviews today because, again, Tyler, who joined us today, is from Ackerman Toyota."

Dealer reviews are ratings and written feedback from customers about their experience with a dealership. They can highlight patterns in sales transparency, service quality, and how issues are handled after purchase.

Term

warranty

"If you want to save money, we've got CarEdge, Concierge, CarEdge Pro. We can help with insurance and warranty as well. If you want to check what your vehicle is worth..."

A warranty is a contract that covers certain repairs for a set time or mileage. The hosts mention warranty support as part of what they can help with, which typically means guidance on coverage options.

Term

insurance

"We can help with insurance and warranty as well. If you want to check what your vehicle is worth, you can do that back at CarEdge.com too."

Insurance is what protects you financially if something happens to your car. It’s usually required by law and can vary a lot by car and driver.

Concept

check what your vehicle is worth

"If you want to check what your vehicle is worth, you can do that back at CarEdge.com too. All right, folks, that's the show."

Checking what your car is worth means estimating how much you could sell it for (or get in a trade). It helps you avoid overpaying or accepting a low offer.

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