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We need to talk about Ferrari #316

We need to talk about Ferrari #316

The Intercooler Jun 01, 2026 49 min
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Ferrari #316 takes center stage as the hosts question its authenticity, arguing “this is not a V12 under there” and that “I think they are going to synthesize some kind of sounds out of it.” They also call out the price—“£460,000, before you put any options on it”—and compare Ferrari’s usual design strengths with past controversial cars. The conversation broadens to Ferrari’s broader EV direction, including how enthusiasts react and what a “Ferrari purely for drivers” might look like.

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Ferrari Luce

"Not quite a week to digest the Ferrari Luce. And it's quite interesting design. ...When I saw it, I was shocked and not in a good way... I simply don't see that that car is a Ferrari."

Ferrari Luce is a new Ferrari model that people either love or hate based on how it looks. The hosts also point out that Ferraris are often bought for their styling and character—especially how they sound—more than for being the best track cars.

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opprobrium

"Because there was this sort of storm [502.7s] of opprobrium when it first kicked off. And then there was sort of pushback against that."

“Opprobrium” just means people reacted with strong negativity—like widespread criticism or hate. Here, they’re describing how the new Ferrari Luce got a lot of backlash at first.

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on the limit

"Because what we know about Ferraris is really, you know, you and I might talk about how they handle on the limit, they don't really sell for that."

“On the limit” means the car is being driven as hard as it can before it starts to lose grip. It’s basically the point where handling becomes really challenging and you need the car to stay controllable.

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synthesize some kind of sounds

"I think they are going to synthesize some kind of sounds out of it. But, you know, this is not a V12 under there."

They’re saying the car may use artificial sound to mimic what you’d normally hear from a bigger engine. Some people like it, but others feel it doesn’t sound as authentic as the real thing.

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V12

"this is not a V12 under there. And it's also extremely expensive. It's £400 and something thousand pounds, £460,000, before you put any options on it..."

A V12 is a type of engine with 12 cylinders arranged in two banks. People often expect a certain kind of Ferrari sound and feel from a V12.

Car

Ferrari Mondial

"I mean, I know that there have been some Ferraris which have been less than gorgeous things like the Mondial, and the Mark 1 version of the 330 GT..."

The Ferrari Mondial is one of Ferrari’s older models. The host mentions it as an example of a Ferrari that didn’t look as great as most others.

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Ferrari 330 GT

"some Ferraris which have been less than gorgeous things like the Mondial, and the Mark 1 version of the 330 GT, and the 308 GT4 was quite controversial."

The Ferrari 330 GT is an older Ferrari model. The host is using it as an example of a Ferrari that some people didn’t find especially good-looking.

Car

Ferrari 308 GT4

"and the Mark 1 version of the 330 GT, and the 308 GT4 was quite controversial. The Testarosa was controversial when that first came out."

The Ferrari 308 GT4 is an older Ferrari model. The host says its looks were controversial—meaning not everyone liked them.

Car

Testarossa Testarosa

"... GT, and the 308 GT4 was quite controversial. The Testarosa was controversial when that first came out. So th..."

The Testarossa is a mid-engine sports car made by Ferrari. It’s known for being very recognizable and for having a big performance reputation. The podcast brings it up because people often talked about it when it first appeared.

Car

Ferrari Testarosa

"The Testarosa was controversial when that first came out. So there have been some which have been challenging, but I've never seen"

The Ferrari Testarosa is a well-known classic Ferrari. The host says people thought it looked controversial when it first arrived, even though it later became iconic.

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EV

"I think if it had, you know, some unfamiliar EV startup badge on it, you'd look at it once and not think too much too hard about it again. But let's let's try and be a bit more sort of constructive about this."

EV means electric vehicle. Instead of using gasoline like a typical car, it runs on electricity.

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combustion engine

"an audience that is not steeped in the history of Ferrari like we are, and probably an audience that simply has no interest in a combustion engine Ferrari."

A combustion engine is the traditional kind of engine that burns fuel to make the car move. The hosts are saying some people don’t want a Ferrari that doesn’t use that kind of engine.

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design language

"They applied Ferrari's current design language to a four door car, mostly with a sort of sporty SUV-ish kind of shape."

Design language means the recognizable style cues a brand uses across its cars. The hosts are saying magazines tried to make it look like “typical Ferrari style,” even though the final car might not follow that.

Person

Johnny Ives

"when you engage love from Mark Neusen and Johnny Ives design consultancy to design a car. Of course, they're going to do something totally different."

Johnny Ives is a designer/consultant credited with helping design the car. The hosts are saying that with the right design team, the car won’t necessarily look like the usual expectations.

Person

Mark Neusen

"when you engage love from Mark Neusen and Johnny Ives design consultancy to design a car. Of course, they're going to do something totally different."

Mark Neusen is a person involved in designing the car. The hosts are basically saying the designers’ approach would lead to a different look than what people expected.

Car

Ferrari's first EV

"is approach a company with basically zero background in car design to, to, to create what's, Ferrari's first EV and a very, very important new Ferrari. Why did they do that?"

They’re discussing Ferrari’s first electric car. Ferrari usually makes gas-powered performance cars, so this is a big change for the brand.

Car

Lotus Elise

"...esign language it still uses today, did the Lotus Elise. I mean, just an incredible talent and one of our..."

The Lotus Elise is a small two-seat sports car made to feel quick and nimble when you drive. It’s famous for being light and fun to handle. People talk about it because it’s a classic example of a driver’s car.

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power output

"Because if you think about it, its range is nothing special. Its power output is nothing special."

Power output is basically how much “push” the car’s engine or motors can make. The speaker is saying the EV’s power number isn’t as special as you might expect.

Car

Tesla Model S

"... new Jaguar is going to have. That's what a Tesla Model S plan has had for years. 1000 horsepower used to b..."

The Tesla Model S is a large electric car that uses batteries instead of a gas engine. It’s known for being very fast and for having good range. It’s mentioned because it has long been associated with high-power electric performance.

Car

Tesla Model

"...at the new Jaguar is going to have. That's what a Tesla Model S plan has had for years. 1000 horsepower used to..."

The Tesla Model Y is an all-electric SUV, meaning it runs on a battery instead of gasoline. It’s designed to be practical for everyday driving while still being quick. It comes up in conversations about electric-car performance and technology.

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USP

"Now, that's an interesting USP, isn't it, for a Ferrari. It's the first Ferrari ever with five seats."

USP means the main reason someone would choose a product over alternatives. In this case, the speaker is saying the five-seat setup is Ferrari’s standout selling point.

Concept

tech bro

"So it is trying to go after, I guess, the term tech bro is coming in the direction of this conversation, isn't it? And that's what"

“Tech bro” is slang for a certain type of tech-enthusiast buyer. The host is suggesting Ferrari is aiming at that kind of audience with its new EV strategy.

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bespoke platform

"a lot of it depends on how many Ferrari need to make, but it's on a bespoke platform and you'd think they would need to sell them in a reasonable volume to recover their investment"

A bespoke platform is a custom “car foundation” designed specifically for that model. It costs more to develop, so the company has to sell enough of them to make the project worthwhile.

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residual values

"But maybe they're going to be concerned about its residual values, or maybe it's just going to be a bunch of people who just go, you know, Sodom."

Residual value is the expected resale value of the car later on. If it’s low, you may lose more money when you sell it.

Car

Porsche Cayenne

"What happened to Porsche in 2001? Was it 2002 when it launched the Cayenne? That was a car unlike anything Porsche had ever done before."

The Porsche Cayenne is Porsche’s first-generation SUV that debuted in the early 2000s, representing a major departure from Porsche’s traditional lineup. In this segment, the host uses it as precedent for how a radical new model can change a brand’s profitability and market position.

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electric car

"if Ferrari makes a success out of this car... the first car of its kind, the first electric car of its kind to really fly"

An electric car runs on electricity stored in a battery instead of using a gasoline engine. The host is saying this Ferrari EV is supposed to be a big deal because it’s aiming to do something that hasn’t been done before.

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stance

"But do they understand things that are crucially important to car design, like stance and proportion and tension?"

“Stance” is how the car looks when it’s sitting still—how low it is and how the wheels and body proportions give it an aggressive or sporty look.

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tension

"But do they understand things that are crucially important to car design, like stance and proportion and tension? Perhaps they don't."

“Tension” is about the feeling the design gives you—how the body lines and shapes make the car look like it’s moving or ready to move, even when it’s parked.

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proportion

"But do they understand things that are crucially important to car design, like stance and proportion and tension?"

“Proportion” means how the different parts of the car relate in size—like how long the hood is compared to the cabin, and how the wheels and body look together.

Car

296 platform

"I'd take the 296 platform, and I'd take the hybrids off it, and produce a 600 horsepower V6 lightweight manual road rocket, a Ferrari purely for drivers"

They’re talking about Ferrari’s underlying design “platform” used for the 296. The idea is to keep the basic car layout but remove the hybrid parts to make a simpler, lighter, more driver-oriented Ferrari.

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hybrids

"I'd take the 296 platform, and I'd take the hybrids off it, and produce a 600 horsepower V6 lightweight manual road rocket"

“Hybrids” are cars that use both a gas engine and an electric motor. The host wants to remove the electric part so the car is simpler and more focused on the gas-engine driving feel.

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manual

"and produce a 600 horsepower V6 lightweight manual road rocket, a Ferrari purely for drivers"

“Manual” means you shift gears yourself using a clutch and a stick. The host is saying they’d want a Ferrari that feels more connected to the driver.

Concept

tonic

"And I think a car like that, a stripped down, lighter, simpler, more affordable, driver focused Ferrari would be the perfect tonic for all those people who are going, what are they doing?"

“Tonic” is used metaphorically to describe a remedy for brand anxiety—something that restores the emotional connection enthusiasts feel with what made the marque great. In this context, the host argues a stripped-down, driver-first Ferrari would reassure buyers.

Car

BMW M3

"...do, well, maybe not because they have just on the F80, but I mean, the temptation is going to be, is to..."

The BMW M3 is a performance-focused BMW, meaning it’s tuned to be faster and more exciting than a regular 3 Series. The F80 is one particular generation of the M3. People bring it up when talking about what makes a car feel truly sporty.

Car

Jaguar

"I haven't seen an uproar around a new car or around a car maker like this since Jaguar a couple of years ago now with"

Jaguar is a car brand. The hosts mention it because people got upset about Jaguar’s rebrand/advert, and they’re comparing that reaction to what’s happening with Ferrari here.

Car

Renault Twingo

"Oh, yes. Listen to that enthusiasm. I love it. I've got a Twingo. [1689.8s] Renault Twingo. I've got a French left-hand drive Twingo. To me, it's what an EV should be."

The Renault Twingo is a small car made for city driving. Here, it’s brought up as a cheaper, everyday option compared with very expensive electric cars.

Car

5 Renault 5

"...e a Twingo, simple as. I actually wouldn't have a Renault 5. I'd just save the money and get a Twingo. It's s..."

The Renault 5 E-Tech Electric is a small electric car made by Renault. It uses a battery instead of gasoline and is meant to be practical for everyday driving. In the podcast, it’s discussed as a choice compared with other small EVs.

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compact car

"it's, you know, it's very much a compact car. You're not going to, you know, putting your grown up children in the back of it."

A compact car is a smaller, city-friendly size of car. The host is saying the Twingo is small enough that it’s great for commuting, but not ideal for lots of rear-seat passengers.

Car

Renault 4

"...we were slightly more lukewarm, weren't we on the Renault 4? Because it just seemed to be like a rather less ..."

The Renault 4 CV is an older small car made by Renault. It’s the kind of vehicle people discuss when comparing how cars feel or how they were received at the time. In this context, the speaker is saying it didn’t fully impress them.

Car

Land Rover Range Rover

"... we couldn't, you couldn't do it in the back of a Range Rover. Because of the telescreens. I don't think it wou..."

The Land Rover Range Rover is a luxury SUV designed to be comfortable for passengers and capable on different roads. It’s often used as a “big, premium” family car. In the podcast, it’s mentioned because of how the back seat area is laid out.

Car

BMW M5 CS

"You've got a BMW M5 CS knocking about at the moment, haven't you? Yeah, so this is the latest in my regulars..."

The BMW M5 CS is a special, more aggressive version of the BMW M5. It’s meant to feel sportier and more exciting to drive than a regular M5, and the host is talking about it as a car they’re spending time with.

Car

BMW E34

"...er. Six generations. Six generations. I think the E34 is a candidate, but other than that, there's noth..."

The BMW 5 Series is a mid-size luxury car that BMW has made for many years. The podcast mentions several generations and specifically brings up the E34 as one that might be worth considering. People talk about it because each generation feels a bit different.

Term

ADAS

"It's 2021, so it's just pre-mandatory ADAS systems. So you literally get in it and you plug your seatbelt in and you go."

ADAS stands for driver-assist tech. It’s the safety and convenience electronics that can help you stay in your lane, keep distance from the car ahead, and warn you about hazards.

Term

charging pads

"I'm a person who quite likes gadgets. I quite like charging pads for your telephone and car play and all this. It's got it all."

A charging pad is a spot in the car where you can place your phone to charge it without plugging in a cable.

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car play

"I'm a person who quite likes gadgets. I quite like charging pads for your telephone and car play and all this. It's got it all."

CarPlay is a way to connect your iPhone to your car’s screen. It brings up things like maps, music, and calls so you can use your phone while driving.

Car

Porsche 911

"What's next? 911 Turbo S and Aston Martin Vantage S because for whatever reason, they both turned up on your driveway at once, didn't they?"

The Porsche 911 Turbo S is a super-quick, turbocharged 911. The hosts are basically saying it’s one of Porsche’s best and most expensive performance versions.

Car

Aston Martin Vantage S

"What's next? 911 Turbo S and Aston Martin Vantage S because for whatever reason, they both turned up on your driveway at once, didn't they?"

The Aston Martin Vantage S is a sportier version of the Vantage. The hosts are comparing it to the Porsche and saying both are so fast you can’t really use all of it on normal roads.

Car

Kia Picanto

"Well, we have the Turbo S, didn't we, for a job that we did last week before last, where we drove it with an Audi Quattro and a Kia Picanto across a lot of, an awful lot of whales."

The Kia Picanto is a small, city-focused car used here as a contrast vehicle in the hosts’ previous road trip. Mentioning it alongside the Porsche 911 Turbo S and Aston Martin Vantage S highlights the huge performance gap between everyday cars and flagship sports cars.

Term

locked up

"But, you know, the same, you get the same sense in the Aston that when you drive it, you can't use all that performance. You'd be locked up. And rightly so."

“Locked up” means the car loses grip and the wheels can’t roll normally. The host is saying the Aston is so fast that you hit that limit quickly on public roads.

Term

60

"So it doesn't really matter, you know, which car will get to 60, a tenth of a second quicker than the other one."

“60” means how fast the car accelerates from a stop to 60 (mph or km/h). They’re saying the two cars are so quick that small differences in that number don’t matter much in real driving.

Car

Aston Martin DB12

"And in fact, actually, the Vantage isn't my favorite Aston Martin. I give that to the DB12 all day long."

The Aston Martin DB12 is a newer Aston Martin model meant for comfortable, exciting long drives. In this discussion, the host says it’s their favorite Aston for the kind of driving they want to do.

Term

twin test

"So that's the verdict of the twin test I never write."

A “twin test” is basically a head-to-head comparison format. The idea is to judge two cars side-by-side to see which one makes more sense as a single everyday choice.

Car

Rolls-Royce Rolls Royce Silver

"...nt a day driving the Silver Ghost. I don't mean a Rolls Royce Silver Ghost. I mean the Silver Ghost, the only car in t..."

The Rolls-Royce Silver Shadow is a classic luxury car from Rolls-Royce. In the podcast, it’s mentioned because the speaker is correcting which specific Rolls-Royce they drove. It’s essentially a way to name the exact model being discussed.

Car

Rolls-Royce Silver Ghost

"...timable privilege to have spent a day driving the Silver Ghost. I don't mean a Rolls Royce Silver Ghost. I mean ..."

The Rolls-Royce Silver Ghost is an old, classic luxury car made by Rolls-Royce. People value it because it’s known for being very smooth and comfortable. The podcast mentions it because driving one is a special experience.

Car

Ghost

"I borrowed a new Ghost from Rolls Royce. New Ghost only came out last year. Very different to the predecessor Ghost."

The Rolls-Royce Ghost is a very luxurious, comfort-focused car. The host says the newer Ghost shares its underlying engineering “platform” with the Phantom, which helps explain why it feels so refined.

Car

Rolls-Royce Phantom

"...ost. This is now sits on the same platform as the Phantom. Has four-wheel drive, four-wheel steering. And t..."

The Rolls-Royce Phantom is a very expensive, top-level luxury car. It’s designed to feel smooth and comfortable, especially for long drives. The podcast also mentions advanced drivetrain and steering features that help it move more easily.

Term

four-wheel drive

"This is now sits on the same platform as the Phantom. Has four-wheel drive, four-wheel steering. And there's nothing of the sort of,"

Four-wheel drive means power goes to all four wheels. That can help the car grip better, especially in rain or slippery conditions.

Term

four-wheel steering

"This is now sits on the same platform as the Phantom. Has four-wheel drive, four-wheel steering. And there's nothing of the sort of,"

Four-wheel steering means not only the front wheels turn—so do the rear wheels too. This can make the car easier to steer at low speeds and steadier at higher speeds.

Place

Cotswold Airport

"So that was that. And then we then met up, met the old car at the brilliant Cotswold Airport, where you can hire a 747."

Cotswold Airport is a place in the UK where the host met up and drove the car. They also describe it as having space to hire a plane for events.

Concept

point-to-point

"We wanted to find out how much quicker point-to-point is the fastest point-to-point road car you can buy versus the slowest."

“Point-to-point” means timing a drive from one place to another along a route. It’s a more real-world way to compare cars than just testing them on a track.

Car

Audi Quattro

"it was Jess who had the idea and indeed brought along this 40, well, actually, here's a late one, wasn't it? So it's a 35-year-old Audi Quattro, but a 45-year-old design..."

The Audi Quattro is an older Audi that’s famous for its all-wheel drive. In this story, they use it as a reference from the 1980s to compare against newer cars on the same kind of road trip.

Term

turbo

"Whereas in the turbo or even the Quattro with only a couple hundred horsepower, you have what you need to get lost safely."

“Turbo” refers to a turbocharged engine, where a turbocharger forces more air into the cylinders to increase power. The hosts contrast turbo (more usable power for passing) with the Picanto’s limited power when traffic blocks your route.

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