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The perfect power output, undercover driver's cars & has Porsche gone too far? | evo Q&A EP2

The perfect power output, undercover driver's cars & has Porsche gone too far? | evo Q&A EP2

The evo podcast Apr 24, 2026 35 min
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About this episode

evo podcast Q&A EP2 dives into everything from choosing the right car for wet, twisty northern mountain roads to how much horsepower you truly need (they land on power-to-weight and around 500hp as a sweet spot). The discussion also heats up around Nürburgring bragging rights—Porsche’s GT3 RS time versus Ford’s Mustang GTD updates—and whether Porsche’s 911 GT3 “speedster” style has gone too far. Other highlights include why older Fords felt more dynamically “engineered,” the return of physical controls in modern interiors, and real-world ownership costs for a 2010 Mercedes C63 estate.

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Concept

all-wheel drive

"Well, the two schools of thought there aren't there. The obvious one would be all-wheel drive. Yeah, I think so. But then part of me thinks rear-wheel drive because it can have a lot of fun."

All-wheel drive means the car can send power to all four tires. That usually helps it grip better on wet, slippery roads so you can drive more confidently.

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rear-wheel drive

"Yeah, I think so. But then part of me thinks rear-wheel drive because it can have a lot of fun. More fun. So go on and shoot."

Rear-wheel drive (RWD) sends power primarily to the rear wheels, which can make the car feel more dynamic and “fun” to drive. The host is contrasting it with AWD, implying that on a bumpy, twisty wet road, RWD can offer a more engaging balance and steering feel—though it may require more driver finesse for grip.

Car

Audi RS4

"I think I've just spent quite a bit of time in the B7 RS4. Yeah. And I think even though it was dry on that test, mostly it feels like a car that would suit wet, bumpy roads quite well."

This is a high-performance Audi RS4 from the B7 generation. The point here is that it should grip well and feel stable when the road is wet and uneven.

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wet, bumpy roads

"And I think even though it was dry on that test, mostly it feels like a car that would suit wet, bumpy roads quite well. But then you have the other angle of possibly going for a hot hatch, like a Marquette Fiesta ST."

Wet, bumpy roads are tough on a car because the tires can lose grip and the suspension has to work harder. The hosts are talking about which cars handle that kind of situation best.

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hot hatch

"But then you have the other angle of possibly going for a hot hatch, like a Marquette Fiesta ST. I feel it would be really fun on those roads because you have the smaller dimensions and less weight."

A hot hatch is a performance-focused version of a hatchback, typically with a stronger engine and sport-tuned suspension. In this segment, it’s used to frame the Fiesta ST as a lightweight, compact choice that can be exciting on tight mountain roads in the rain.

Car

Yaris

"Or maybe a Yaris, GI Yaris or something because they seem to come alive on a wet road more than a dry road. Somehow you feel the car working a bit more and on imagining those kinds of roads."

The Toyota Yaris is a small car. They’re saying it can feel more engaging and easier to drive when the road is wet and slippery.

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side screens

"If you've got the side screens up, then you just tucked away away from the rain. So I would love that, particularly on a twisty road where you're just enjoying yourself more than trying to go as quickly as you can."

These are panels you put up along the sides of an open-top car. They help block wind and rain so you can drive with the roof off but still stay comfortable.

Car

BMW M3

"I did note down M3 Touring of the current generation because it is just great at dealing with not great roads. But then you do have the it is a bigger car and it is quite heavy."

This is the BMW M3 in wagon form. It’s meant to be fast and fun, but still comfortable over rough roads—though it can feel heavier and harder to hustle than smaller cars.

Car

EVO

"But actually, in the rain, again, the balance of an EVO is a little bit more playful, but you still have the... They are sort of built for it."

They’re talking about the Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution, a car famous for being fun even in bad weather. The point is that its handling balance makes it feel easier to enjoy in the rain compared with some other performance cars.

Concept

stock one

"You wouldn't need a wildly tuned one. Just a stock one would be great in those sorts of conditions."

They’re saying you don’t necessarily need a heavily modified car. A normal, factory version can be perfect because it’s already set up to work well in those conditions.

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traction control

"I think beyond a certain point, tire technology and traction control and all of those things, you don't necessarily need the need all-wheel drive unless it brings another dynebo or, I don't know, R34 GTR or something"

Traction control is a computer system that helps stop the wheels from spinning when the road is slippery. It can make a rear-wheel-drive car feel more usable in the wet by managing slip.

Car

Nissan R34

"...nless it brings another dynebo or, I don't know, R34 GTR or something, which is quite a bulky car, bu..."

The Nissan Skyline is a sports car model made by Nissan, and some versions are known for strong performance. The podcast mentions it in the context of other famous performance cars, including a specific Skyline generation. It’s brought up because the Skyline has a big enthusiast following.

Car

Nissan Gtr

"...unless it brings another dynebo or, I don't know, R34 GTR or something, which is quite a bulky car, but then they work in a very unusual way, so it makes the limits of a car more accessible in the rain."

The Nissan GT-R (R34) is referenced as an example of a “bulky” all-wheel-drive car that still works in a very unusual way. The host’s point is that AWD can change how accessible a car’s limits feel in the rain.

Car

GT3 RS

"We found on E-COTY 23 with a GT3 RS. Was that 23 or 24? 23, I think. 23. They're not brilliant roads. It should not have worked. And it was wet."

The host cites experience from E-COTY 23 using a Porsche 911 GT3 RS. They’re using it to argue that, even on roads that “should not have worked” (wet and poor), the GT3 RS can still be excellent because its grip and balance make it easy to drive at the limit.

Concept

aquaplaning

"I mean, obviously, beyond a certain point, nobody likes aquaplaning and standing water, but on a good twisty, hilly road, that's about as good as it gets, I think, in the right car."

Aquaplaning is when your tires lose contact with the road because there’s too much water. The car can feel like it’s sliding on top of the surface instead of gripping it.

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horsepower

"But how much horsepower do you actually need? I think 500 horsepower feels like a very good amount... So anything with around 300 horsepower per tonne."

Horsepower is basically how strong the engine is. But two cars with the same horsepower can feel different if one delivers it more smoothly or the car is lighter/heavier.

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power to weight ratio

"I think we, some years ago... settled on a, it was more of a power to weight ratio than a peak power figure. So anything with around 300 horsepower per tonne. It's a good level."

Instead of just asking “how much horsepower?”, you compare horsepower to how heavy the car is. A lighter car with the same power will feel quicker, and the ratio helps predict that.

Car

Lotus Elise

"...then you can have a S1 Elise and it's 118 horsepower, which I know is the exception that generally proves the rule. It is power to weight, isn't it?"

The Lotus Elise is known for being very light, so even smaller engines can feel fast. The point here is that a low-power car can still be quick if it’s light and well-balanced.

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torque plays a role

"And then the torque plays a role as well, doesn't it? If you're in a... revvy VTech type Honda... then the lack of torque means you have to work the car that bit harder."

Torque is the engine’s pulling force. If a car has more torque available earlier, it can accelerate without you revving as much, so it feels easier and more relaxed to drive.

Car

Defender 130

"I mean, I've driven here in a 500 horsepower Defender 130 and that is not saying my hair on fire."

The Defender 130 is a big, long-wheelbase Land Rover. Even if it has a lot of power, how it feels depends on things like weight and grip, not just horsepower.

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traction and electronics

"I think modern era cars, because they have got that bit bigger and there's more grip and the electronics are more, they probably play more of a part without you really noticing."

Modern cars have computer-controlled systems that help the tires grip the road. That means the car can deliver power more smoothly and safely, even when you’re pushing it.

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progressive throttle

"Well, you get the power in different ways, don't you? I think they can make it very progressive and throttle is progressive."

Progressive throttle means the car responds smoothly as you add more pedal. Instead of a sudden jump in power, it builds gradually, which makes it easier to drive fast.

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power delivery vs peak figures

"And then as you kind of hot it up, it gets more edgy and your heart rate goes up a little bit... but it's fundamentally, it's the same peak figures."

Peak horsepower is just the maximum. What matters day-to-day is how the car gives you that power—whether it feels smooth and predictable or sharp and intense.

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Nürburgring lap time

"There’s a Nurburgring one there, Sam. There is another Nurburgring question here. The Nurburgrings come up a lot recently."

A Nürburgring lap time is how fast a car can go around the Nürburgring track. People use it like a scoreboard to compare cars, because the track is tough and detailed.

Car

Ford Mustang GTD

"And then on the same day, Ford announced a time, a third lap time for the Mustang GTD, which is now the GTD competition."

They mention Ford’s Mustang GTD getting another Nürburgring time. The point is that Ford is updating the car (and its setup) to improve performance.

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official time vs "fudged" comparison

"Yeah, they've sort of fudged it a little bit, haven't they? Because it has rear aero discs on the rear wheels. They've tweaked the the DRS system at the back..."

They’re basically debating whether the new lap time is a fair comparison to the earlier one. If the car has been changed (aero, power, DRS), the time can improve even if it’s not the exact same setup.

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rear aero discs

"Yeah, they've sort of fudged it a little bit, haven't they? Because it has rear aero discs on the rear wheels. They've tweaked the the DRS system at the back..."

Rear aero discs are add-on aerodynamic parts near the back wheels. They’re there to help the car slice through air better and stay stable, which can make it faster.

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DRS system

"Because it has rear aero discs on the rear wheels. They've tweaked the the DRS system at the back and tweaked aero throughout and given it more power."

DRS is a system that changes the car’s aerodynamics to reduce drag. The hosts are saying Ford adjusted it to help the car go faster on track.

Car

Nissan R35 Gtr

"...rsus Porsche is like Porsche versus Nissan in the R35 GTR days. Some people think it's absolutely pointles..."

The Nissan GT-R (R35) is a fast sports car from Nissan that’s designed to be extremely quick. The podcast talks about it in comparisons with other performance cars and mentions that some people don’t see the need to compare it. It’s brought up because it’s known for serious performance.

Topic

Nürburgring ring times

"Yeah, I mean, the question is why don't Ferrari and McLaren or any of the manufacturers do ring times? Because they don't, do they?"

The Nürburgring is a very famous race track in Germany. “Ring times” are how fast a car can complete a lap there, and companies use them to show off performance.

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Firano times

"They've got their Firano times, which are quite close. Yeah, they have full control of that."

The speaker is talking about a track where a manufacturer can test and measure performance. The point is that Ferrari can compare results using its own controlled testing, instead of Nürburgring lap-time bragging.

Topic

Le Mans competition

"Or if they started engaging in that sort of competition, then they've lowered themselves to everyone else when actually they compete at Le Mans, don't they?"

Le Mans is a major long-distance race. It’s different from a single-lap “fastest car” contest because it tests how well a car can keep going.

Topic

Formula One and GT series

"And they compete in Formula One and they compete in the GT series. So I guess that's how they see it."

They’re talking about two kinds of racing. Formula One is the top open-wheel series, while GT racing uses cars that are based on real production models. The idea is that brands might prefer to prove themselves in one type of racing rather than using road cars for lap-time bragging.

Car

Golf Gtd

"...And it can backfire. I mean, the initial Mustang GTD time didn't make that car look great. It was qui..."

The Volkswagen Golf is a popular compact car that comes in different versions, including some that are more performance-focused. The podcast mentions it in the context of sounds like backfiring and how certain performance-related changes can affect how a car looks or feels. It’s used as an example in a wider discussion rather than a single-car deep dive.

Concept

simulated lap times vs actually running the car

"I think you can probably go to most circuits having simulated your, run it through a sim or predicted lap times and get close to that. But until you actually go to the Nurburgring and run a car,"

They’re saying computer simulations can estimate lap times, but they can’t fully capture what happens when the car is actually on the track. Real testing shows the real grip and behavior, so it’s the best way to confirm performance.

Concept

Nürburgring setup

"But until you actually go to the Nurburgring and run a car, I think I know when I spoke to some of the Mantag guys and they said that they can do setup work at other circuits that improve the car at other circuits. But when they come back to the Nurburgring with them, it never seems to work."

A “setup” is how the team tunes the car for a specific track. The Nürburgring is famous for being so different in every section that what works at other circuits doesn’t always work there.

Concept

fine balance between technical sections and long straights

"So I think there's a very fine balance because there's some really fast, like technical sections, but then there's long, long, long, long straights. And you'd think like the Mustang on the long uphill would absolutely destroy a RS up there, just through sheer power and I think it might have done."

Tracks have different “types” of sections. Some parts are all about handling through corners, and other parts are all about speed and acceleration. A lap time is the whole package—being great in only one area usually isn’t enough.

Car

Ford Mustang

"Well, the Mustang was quite a bit quicker than the GT3, which is crazy."

The Ford Mustang is a popular performance car from Ford. Here, they’re basically saying the Mustang was surprisingly fast compared with a Porsche track car.

Topic

comparing lap pace between cars

"Well, the Mustang was quite a bit quicker than the GT3, which is crazy... It is good to watch. It's entertainment, isn't it?"

They’re talking about which cars are faster around a track and why those comparisons can be tricky. They also treat it as fun to watch, not just a strict scientific test.

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tires

"but also they haven't said which tires that car was on. Oh, okay."

Tires are a huge part of how fast a car can go around a track. Different tires can grip the road better or worse, so lap times aren’t always directly comparable.

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road legal

"I think they probably are road legal, but they're barely road legal."

“Road legal” means it’s allowed to be used on public roads. They’re hinting the tires are mostly track-oriented, so they might be borderline for normal street driving.

Car

McLaren 750S

"Lando Norris was just there in a 750S, just in our tourist lab."

The McLaren 750S is a high-performance supercar from McLaren. They’re saying Lando Norris was driving it and it looked extremely fast.

Car

Ford Focus

"Right, next. At the other end of the spectrum, we have a question about the original Ford Focus... praised for its handling and making even the lower spec versions fun."

They’re talking about the early Ford Focus as a car that was enjoyable to drive, not just fast on paper. Even the cheaper versions apparently felt good to steer and ride, which is why it’s remembered.

Concept

fun-to-drive magic

"So when the Ford Focus first came out, it was praised for its handling and making even the lower spec versions fun... Are there any current ordinary cars in low specs that have that same Evo fun-to-drive magic?"

They mean a car that feels genuinely enjoyable to drive, not just “works fine.” It’s about how it steers and rides together so the driver feels connected to the road.

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engineers cars

"So I think that that era of Ford... was freakishly good, honed and they were definitely engineers cars. I mean, they were stylish as well."

They’re saying the car feels like it was built by people focused on how it drives. Instead of just looking good, it was tuned so the steering and ride feel right.

Term

suspension

"It felt like they'd had twice as much money spent on all the components and the fundamental design of the suspension. But even the gear shift in those cars..."

Suspension is what helps the tires stay in contact with the road and controls how the car rides over bumps. Better suspension design can make a car feel more stable and more enjoyable to drive.

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gear shift

"But even the gear shift in those cars, like a original Puma was such a sweet car. A little Ford car, they all had the same polish to all the controls."

The gear shift is how you change gears. The host is saying some cars have a really nice, smooth, satisfying feel when you move the shifter.

Car

Ford Puma

"...ven the gear shift in those cars, like a original Puma was such a sweet car. A little Ford car, they al..."

The Ford Puma is a small Ford car that’s meant for normal daily driving, but it’s also designed to feel a bit sporty. In the podcast, they bring it up because the shifting/gear feel is enjoyable. It’s a compact car rather than a big performance vehicle.

Concept

shared platforms

"And the team of engineers that he would have built around him. And shared platforms. Yeah, to put a stamp on that generation of cars."

Some car companies build several different models on the same basic “skeleton.” That saves money, but it can make it harder to make each model feel uniquely special to drive.

Brand

Stellantis

"I think if you're Stellantis or whatever, it's very hard to give a sort of dynamic identity across something that's appearing in four with four different badges."

Stellantis is a big car group that owns many different brands. Because they share parts and platforms across brands, it can be harder to make every model feel truly unique.

Concept

badge engineering

"I think if you're Stellantis or whatever, it's very hard to give a sort of dynamic identity across something that's appearing in four with four different badges."

Badge engineering is when the same car is sold with different brand logos. It can be cheaper to do, but it may mean the car doesn’t feel as unique between brands.

Car

Ford Fiesta

"Along the Ford line, I think the Marquette Fiesta, the standard Fiesta, an ST line, was a nice car to drive. I don't think it was on the same level as the general focus."

The Ford Fiesta is being used as an example of a car that felt well put together to drive. The host is basically saying older small cars often had a more satisfying overall feel than many modern alternatives.

Car

Renault Twingo

"[1095.6s] I think the closest now is probably Renault with the four, the five and the Twingo. [1102.8s] I haven't driven the Twingo. [1103.8s] I think they're trying, aren't they?"

They bring up the Renault Twingo as an example of a small, affordable car Renault is trying to make more exciting. The point is that when it’s an EV, the extra weight affects how it drives.

Concept

vehicle weight affecting driving feel

"[1115.6s] But they are EVs, so they are heavier than they probably- [1119.2s] I think, again, yeah, that imposes a certain kind of feel and they just have to control [1127.4s] the weight of the car in a different way. [1128.5s] Sounding so much they can do."

They’re saying that when a car is heavier, it doesn’t move the same way as a lighter one. Because of that, engineers have to set up the car differently so it still feels responsive and enjoyable.

Car

911 GT3 SC

"Honest thoughts on the 911 GT3 SC and has Porsche taken it too far? ... they've worked very hard at trying to keep the purity and authenticity in the car by going the extra mile to keep the weight the same."

This is a special Porsche 911 built for track-style driving. The discussion is basically: is it still “true” to what a GT3 should be, or has Porsche gone too extreme?

Concept

purity and authenticity

"...they've worked very hard at trying to keep the purity and authenticity in the car by going the extra mile to keep the weight the same."

They’re talking about whether the car still feels like a real GT3—light, focused, and built for driving—not just a flashy special edition. The idea is that Porsche tried to keep the car’s core identity intact.

Term

powertrain

"And you know, the powertrain's awesome. A gearbox is going to be fantastic and it's going to be a lovely thing to drive."

Powertrain is the stuff that makes the car move—mainly the engine and the gearbox working together. They’re saying the driving experience from that setup is really good.

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gearbox

"A gearbox is going to be fantastic and it's going to be a lovely thing to drive. Image-wise, I don't know."

A gearbox is what changes gears so the engine can stay in the right “power band.” They’re saying the car’s gearbox should make it especially fun and smooth.

Concept

cashing in

"...it's an easy one to poke fun at and it's an easy car to think or they're just cashing in."

This is basically the accusation that Porsche is making the car just to make money off people’s excitement. The question is whether the changes are truly for driving—or mostly for sales.

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expensive

"I mean, they need to make some money, don't they, bluntly, because they've had an absolute nightmare. I think they will, but this car, it is expensive. Well, it's more than a GT3 RS."

The host frames the 911 GT3 SC as “expensive,” then compares it to a GT3 RS. This highlights how pricing influences perception—whether the car is seen as worth it for performance and engineering or as overpriced for what it is.

Concept

take it with a pinch of salt

"So I think you can take it with a pinch of salt, can't you? And I know we're fudging it a little bit, but the nuts and bolts are the thing."

It means don’t believe everything you hear right away. If someone’s being overly dramatic or biased, you should treat it as less certain.

Concept

nuts and bolts

"And I know we're fudging it a little bit, but the nuts and bolts are the thing. I haven't driven it, but you have to judge people on the past efforts, don't you?"

It means focusing on the real details, not the talk. For cars, it’s about how it’s built and how it drives, not just what people say.

Concept

judge people on the past efforts

"I haven't driven it, but you have to judge people on the past efforts, don't you? So it's going to be a cracking thing to drive."

It means if you can’t test it yet, you look at what someone has done before. For cars, that’s like using past models to guess whether the new one will be good.

Concept

static launch

"I mean, so I did the static launch of that car. [1295.8s] Yeah."

A “static launch” means the car is sitting still, then you floor it and measure how it accelerates. It helps show whether the car hooks up well or spins the wheels when you start moving.

Concept

considering this concept since the 997

"And they've been considering this concept since the 997. [1310.6s] They've only just actually made it happen."

They’re saying Porsche has been thinking about this idea since the 997-generation 911. The 997 is an older generation of the 911, so it suggests the concept took a long time to reach production.

Concept

track time competition

"[1349.6s] No, I don't think so. [1350.9s] I think we should. [1352.1s] Well, there's only one way to find out, isn't there? [1353.6s] There is, yeah. [1354.5s] There is. [1359.3s] I think it would depend on the cars. [1361.3s] I think in go-karts, I think there's a couple of us are carrying a bit more success ballast"

A track time competition is when people try to be faster on a race track by posting good lap times. It’s not just about power—it also depends on how the car handles and how well the tires work.

Concept

success ballast

"[1361.3s] I think in go-karts, I think there's a couple of us are carrying a bit more success ballast [1365.4s] than the youngsters."

Success ballast means adding extra weight to a faster driver’s kart or car. The idea is to make the racing more even so the outcome isn’t decided just by who’s quickest.

Concept

one-lap time attack shootout

"[1393.2s] Yeah, I think, yeah. [1397.4s] I don't know, a one-lap time attack shootout versus a longer distance race. [1403.9s] I don't know."

A one-lap time attack is basically a race against the clock for just one lap. You want everything to be perfect immediately—tires, braking points, and steering—because you don’t get many chances to correct errors.

Concept

longer distance race

"[1393.2s] Yeah, I think, yeah. [1397.4s] I don't know, a one-lap time attack shootout versus a longer distance race. [1403.9s] I don't know."

In a longer race, you can’t just go flat-out the whole time. You have to keep the car stable and the tires happy, and you need a strategy that lasts for the full distance.

Term

slicks

"[1429.9s] But yeah, we need something lightweight, something in the middle, [1434.4s] and maybe some slicks and wings type. [1437.6s] Yeah, yeah, a bit of everything."

Slicks are track tires with no tread. They grip really well on a dry race track, but they’re not good in the rain and can wear out faster.

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wings

"[1429.9s] But yeah, we need something lightweight, something in the middle, [1434.4s] and maybe some slicks and wings type. [1437.6s] Yeah, yeah, a bit of everything."

A “wing” is an aerodynamic add-on that helps the car stick to the road. It creates downforce, which can make the car feel more stable and grippy at higher speeds.

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real switches and dials

"[1445.0s] This one here, on a similar topic to the earlier questions, [1449.1s] but are we ever getting proper car interiors back with real switches and dials? [1454.1s] Because a lot of manufacturers are talking about bringing that stuff back."

This means the car has physical buttons and knobs you can feel and use without staring at a screen. People like it because it’s usually quicker and safer while you’re driving.

Topic

proper car interiors with physical controls

"[1445.0s] This one here, on a similar topic to the earlier questions, [1449.1s] but are we ever getting proper car interiors back with real switches and dials? [1454.1s] Because a lot of manufacturers are talking about bringing that stuff back."

They’re talking about whether car interiors will go back to having real buttons and knobs. They mention Volkswagen’s ID.3 as an example of that trend.

Car

Volkswagen ID3

"Because a lot of manufacturers are talking about bringing that stuff back. [1458.0s] Volkswagen is the last to do this with the new ID3. [1461.4s] They've said they've brought back old Volkswagen with real buttons."

The Volkswagen ID.3 is an electric car from Volkswagen. They’re talking about it because it uses physical buttons and knobs again, rather than making you control everything through a screen.

Car

Volkswagen Golf

"Mark 8 Golf? Yeah. People were literally handing their cars back, weren't they?"

This is the Volkswagen Golf Mk8, the newest generation of the Golf at the time. The hosts are saying some owners hated how the car’s screens/controls worked, so much that they returned the cars.

Term

HMI

"People were literally handing their cars back, weren't they? Because they just could not get on with a HMI."

HMI means the way the car “talks” to you and the way you “talk” back—mostly through screens and buttons. If the HMI is confusing, you end up hunting through menus instead of adjusting things quickly.

Car

Aston Martin Valhalla

"...on't know, thinking back to right at the top of a Valhalla or something, there's quite a nice mix of physic..."

The Aston Martin Valhalla is a very high-performance supercar made by Aston Martin. The podcast brings it up when talking about the kind of driving experience you get from the top end of performance cars. It’s mentioned as an example of a serious, track-focused machine.

Concept

physical switches vs touchscreen menus

"there's quite a nice mix of physical switches... You have to go through three screens to find what you're looking for. It's infuriating."

They’re debating whether it’s better to use real buttons/knobs or to use a screen. Their point is that buttons are easier to find quickly without looking, which matters more when you’re driving hard.

Term

rotary controls

"So you can find the rotary controls for the stuff that you need to adjust without looking so heating and some of the traction control stuff."

Rotary controls are physical knobs used to adjust functions like climate or audio. The hosts prefer them because they can be operated by feel, without looking away from the road, and they can be faster than screen-based controls.

Term

infuriating

"You have to go through three screens to find what you're looking for. It's infuriating."

They’re saying it’s really frustrating when you have to hunt through menus on a screen to change something. The frustration is about speed and ease of use while driving.

Concept

designed by people that have never driven a car

"I think, unfortunately... a lot of it, honestly, is designed by people that have never driven a car."

They’re basically saying the car’s controls feel wrong because the people designing them may not have actually driven a car hard. If you don’t experience that, it’s easy to make menus that are annoying in real driving.

Term

touch screens

"[1554.4s] But it's a big shift, isn't it? [1556.5s] They went all in on touch screens because they're easy to put in [1560.4s] and it's cheaper to put lots of functionality into it."

Touchscreens are the big displays you tap to control things in the car. They’re convenient for manufacturers, but the discussion suggests they can be harder to use while driving if everything is buried in menus.

Term

ventilation controls

"[1580.0s] But I think the most important stuff, [1582.6s] modeling controls and ventilation controls and maybe traction [1586.3s] and exhaust and stuff like that should be just easy to find."

Ventilation controls are the car’s climate settings—heat/AC and fan direction. The point here is that these should be simple to adjust quickly while driving.

Term

physical buttons

"[1591.8s] I mean, Ferrari have brought physical buttons back quite quickly. [1595.0s] They didn't have the haptic stuff for a long time. [1597.0s] The tiny little track pad is still quite..."

Physical buttons are real knobs and switches you can press. They can be easier to use because you don’t have to tap a screen and you get a clear “click” response.

Brand

Ferrari

"[1590.2s] It's coming back slowly. [1591.8s] I mean, Ferrari have brought physical buttons back quite quickly. [1595.0s] They didn't have the haptic stuff for a long time."

They bring up Ferrari because the brand started using more physical buttons again. The idea is that real buttons can be easier to use than touchscreens, but they still need to be designed well.

Term

haptic

"[1591.8s] I mean, Ferrari have brought physical buttons back quite quickly. [1595.0s] They didn't have the haptic stuff for a long time. [1597.0s] The tiny little track pad is still quite..."

Haptic means the screen can buzz or push back a little to mimic pressing a button. The hosts are saying some cars used this for a while, but it wasn’t always as good as actual buttons.

Term

real dials

"But it's expensive, isn't it? If they were to bring real dials back and get rid of screens."

They mean using physical gauges (like classic speedometer/tach-style dials) instead of screens. Some drivers like it because it’s quicker to read and feels more “mechanical.”

Concept

group test depends on your phone pairing

"... when you're in a group test and there's four or five different cars and you're waiting, everything depends on your phone now."

The speaker describes a modern “group test” workflow where multiple cars require phone pairing for functions to work correctly. This highlights how infotainment and connectivity can affect usability and consistency during real-world evaluation.

Brand

VW

"But the bad ones are always bad, aren't they? [1706.8s] I think that's what VW found. [1708.1s] People just will not bend to something that's not correct."

They’re talking about Volkswagen (VW) and how people react to car tech. If the controls or screens feel awkward, most drivers won’t “get used to it.”

Term

speed warning

"You don't have to hold the button on the wheel to stop the speed warning [1727.6s] or any of that sort of thing. [1729.5s] You literally get in the car and drive it."

They’re referring to the car warning you about your speed. Some cars make you do extra steps to turn the warning off, while others let you just drive.

Car

C63 estate

"So is the C63, I have a 2010 C63 estate, is it really as bad for the wallet as I think it might be? ... Find a specialist that knows the car, which is what I've done, costs a few hundred pounds"

A C63 estate is a Mercedes-Benz wagon version of the C-Class, but tuned by AMG to be much quicker. The “wallet” question is mostly about running costs like servicing, parts, and whether you drive enough miles to trigger expensive service schedules.

Term

miles a year

"How many miles a year do you do in yours? ... So I do about 5,000 miles a year in mine, which isn't horrendous."

This is just how much you drive in a year. If you don’t drive many miles, you’re less likely to reach the mileage triggers that force certain services.

Term

service intervals

"You're not hitting the massive mileage-based service intervals all the time, so you're not having to replace it."

Service intervals are the schedule for when the car needs maintenance. If you don’t drive enough to reach those mileage milestones, you may not have to do the more costly services as often.

Term

minor or major

"So what is a, do you have a minor or major? And that's it or are there intermediate? ... Yeah, so I swapped between minor and major, but the difference is no."

Some car services are small check-ups, and some are bigger, more expensive jobs. A “minor” service is usually less work than a “major” one.

Concept

specialist vs main dealer service history

"So I use a specialist and you really should be using a specialist for a car like that, main dealers or not. Unless you've bought a car with a main dealer service history for its entire life, so you want to maintain that, there's just no point."

The segment contrasts using a specialist independent workshop versus a main dealer. It also emphasizes the value of a fully documented main-dealer service history for resale or warranty-style confidence, while arguing that otherwise there’s little point paying dealer prices if a specialist knows the car well.

Part

rocker cover

"So I had the rocker cover on the passenger side crack, which is quite a common thing. It's plastic on, so they change it from magnesium to plastic, I believe, or they change it from something to plastic, and they just always crack."

The rocker cover is the cover on top of the engine that keeps oil inside and protects the moving parts underneath. If it cracks, it can leak or cause other issues, and replacing it can cost a lot because it takes time to get to.

Term

preventative maintenance

"The thing you need to do with a car like this, and not just C63s, is preventative maintenance. You just have to stay on top of stuff, don't you? If you put something off, there will always be something else to add to that, and then suddenly you've got a three grand bill"

Preventative maintenance is taking care of the car before it breaks. If you ignore small issues, they often turn into bigger repairs that cost much more.

Part

injectors

"you need to make sure the injectors have been changed, because they can stick open, flood a cylinder, and you've got quite an expensive bill, potentially."

Injectors are the parts that spray fuel into the engine at the right time and amount. If an injector gets stuck open, it can keep spraying too much fuel. That can make the engine run badly and lead to expensive repairs, so it’s important to service them on time.

Topic

issue 135

"So, the question from them is, can we have an up-to-date issue 135, please? Which, given that's a million issues ago, I had to delve into the archive."

“Issue 135” sounds like a specific numbered magazine edition. They’re talking about finding it in their archive and updating it.

Car

Ferrari F50

"I mean, look, there's an F50, there's a 996 Gen 1 GT3, there's a Mark 1 MX-5, there's an R26R, McGann, 340R Lotus."

Ferrari’s F50 is a famous supercar with a powerful engine and a very driver-focused design. It’s from the early ’90s and is considered a collectible, special-era car.

Car

340R Lotus

"I mean, look, there's an F50, there's a 996 Gen 1 GT3, there's a Mark 1 MX-5, there's an R26R, McGann, 340R Lotus."

The Lotus 340R is a stripped-down Lotus meant for track-style driving. It’s designed to be light and agile, so it feels quick and responsive even without being a huge, heavy supercar.

Topic

ERAs series

"We probably need to get onto that, although with our ERAs series last year and our upcoming ERAs series this year, we are kind of covering that ground."

“ERAs series” is likely a recurring feature they’ve done before and will do again. They’re saying they’ve already covered the topic in earlier episodes and will continue.

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